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  • Tommy Aug 8, 2016, 12:39 pm

    Check out the Serbian goalie in action. It might be just me but it almost seems as if he is swinging at every single ball thrown at him. I saw this in the Serbia vs Greece game and was very curious what you might think about it considering you talk about it a lot in high school goalies. I’d love a review on it!

    • TWPG Aug 8, 2016, 1:26 pm

      Thanks for the heads up. I haven’t had a chance to watch today’s games yet but I’m hoping to watch most of them tonight. My initial thought is the shooters are just so good and their fakes are so deceptive at this level that the goalie is doing whatever they need to do to prevent a goal.

    • TWPG Aug 9, 2016, 10:09 am

      I watched most of the replay before I had to head out. I didn’t see the Serbian goalie swinging his arms. Most of the swinging I see at the high school level is what I would describe as a windmill swing, a locked arm swinging up on the ball. The other type of swing is more of a slap at the ball. I see this more with goalies trying to block a skip shot and it leads them to miss the ball bouncing up off the water. I didn’t see this either with the Serbian goalie.

  • Ricardo Pereira Oct 8, 2016, 1:58 pm

    Althoug in water Pólo is comom to teach GK to look at the ball, studies on antecipation and decision making skills in goalkeepers im várious sports point elsewhere.
    Sometimes the speed of the ball is Higher than the human reaction time so it seems reasonable that GK should find cues is shoulder, trunk and mostly the elbow of the Shooter to predict the timing and placemnt of the shot.
    E-mail me your opinion about this if you havê some time.
    Congrats in your excelente work in

    • TWPG Oct 10, 2016, 10:38 am

      Thanks for the comment.

      We were just talking about this the other night. In the documentary Fastball they discuss how the batter only really sees the ball at a couple points along the way to home plate. Usually, when the ball is half way the batter truly sees the ball for the last time and their brain calculates where the ball should be and where they should swing their bat. We wondered if this is true with water polo shots? Are water polo balls thrown fast enough that we don’t really track the ball the entire way and we only see the ball a couple points along its path to the goal? Do our brains then fill in the gaps so we think we saw the ball the entire time?

      I agree with your point about finding cues from other aspects of the shot. “Follow the ball” and “keep your eye on the ball”, at least when I say it, serve as catch-all statements and as an easy reminder to stay focused on everything involved with the shot. Like shoulder, elbow, and body placement as they relate to the release point of the ball. And to not get fooled by the less crucial aspects of the shot like where is the shooter looking at. Don’t get fooled by the look-away shot. Your ability to anticipate, “see” the shot, and react quickly enough, like all sports, comes with repetition and seeing a lot of different shooters and shots over and over again to build up your experience level and reading ability.

      • Ricardo Pereira Oct 13, 2016, 3:52 am

        Thanks for the answer,

        The Complex nature of Water Polo and Water Polo GK motion should be center of further studies to understand what perceptive cues are important to observate.

        For now and without specific cientific knowledge i believe that anticipate the Shooters motions looking at decisive points must be enfatized. inclusively my experience as a GK points to it (However my playing level is very low to be sure).

        I also agree with you that when we tell de goalkeeper to” look at the ball” his eyes observe more than the ball itself however depending on the individual, and in particular the anxious ones, we may promove some “attentional blindness”. This happens when the GK is so fixed on the ball that he misses the underlining attentional cues.

        In the matter of GK Training we must build the process with the right or at least the effective constrains to promove adequade responses and i think we don’t have a reference background in attention and perception. And they are essencial to understand the nature of WP Goalkeeping.

        Thanks again and Keep moving with

        Ricardo Pereira

  • mosaab badr omar Sep 13, 2017, 4:11 am

    I believe that when he gets his hands up like this, the chance for the Japan player increased scoring a goal. I always tell my goalies to keep their hands in as much as they can try to cover the goal with their body and wait for the shot. Of course the distance and the position of the shooter has an impact but for most of the cases I don’t like the goalie to raise both hands. What do you think?

    • TWPG Sep 13, 2017, 2:01 pm

      Thank you for the comment and question.

      You hit the nail on the head. It depends on the distance and the position of the shooter. One other element I would add is the goalie’s leg strength. At the Olympic level, these goalies are so big and their legs are so strong that they can bring their hands out earlier and hold their body position longer.

      Holding a vertical blocking position with arms and hands out is a skill that all goalies need to develop. There comes a point when the goalie won’t have enough time to react to a shot with their hands in the water. That is when their hands need to come out and they need to get on their legs. Preferably holding their hands and arms in a more “neutral” position.

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